Jon Stewart said MSNBC needs to follow the Fox News playbook by becoming more ideological and ditching their ‘redundant’ shows.

The comedian brought a hammer down on the liberal network while interviewing Jen Psaki, an MSNBC host, on the Thursday edition of his podcast, ‘The Weekly Show.’

Stewart’s main thesis was that MSNBC is disorganized and was unable to influence a Kamala Harris win.

He pointed to the chasm of difference between anchors like Joe Scarborough, who met with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, and Rachel Maddow, who rarely ever says a kind word about him.

Meanwhile, Fox News, the most popular cable news network in the United States, has been in ideological lockstep for years and was able to deliver a victory for Trump through relentlessly rosy coverage, according to Stewart.

‘They’ve certainly created a machine, and nobody is building that machine [on the left] as far as I can tell,’ Stewart said.

Stewart then asked Psaki, the former White House press secretary under Joe Biden, if there’s one philosophical through line that unites all the hosts.

‘You’re at MSNBC, do they come to you every day and go, “here’s what we think is important to preserve and fight for?”‘

Jon Stewart torched MSNBC and claimed it needs more commitment to an ideology in the second era of Trump
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Jen Psaki, who's a host on MSNBC, took in Stewart's criticism, agreeing at times and pushing back other times
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Jon Stewart had a conversation with Jen Psaki, an MSNBC host and the former White House Press Secretary under Joe Biden, on the Thursday edition of his podcast, ‘The Weekly Show’

Psaki, who also worked at the State Department under Obama, responded: ‘No. We determine, each of us for our shows, here’s what I’m going to cover today, and here’s what I’m going to talk about, and here’s what I think is important.

‘There is an independence-ish of that, and…you’re not waiting to be told what to say about anything. You’re going to say what you think.’

Stewart countered by saying MSNBC hosts aren’t as independent as they think they are. Rather, he said they are prisoners to the ‘minute by minute’ news cycle.

He added the ‘greatest trick’ former Fox News Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes ever played was ‘delegitimizing editorial authority while exercising absolute steel trapdoor editorial authority’ at his network.

The two agreed that Fox News, at the direction of the late Roger Ailes, became a mouthpiece for the Republican party.

Psaki said that MSNBC is not the same for the Democratic party ‘to the frustration at times of many elected Democrats.’

So Psaki, seemingly asking for genuine feedback, asked Stewart what MSNBC should be in the second era of Trump.

‘It should be a check on the excesses. It should be muckraking in the best sense of the word. But effective muckraking needs organization and a leader. And it can’t just be left to everybody’s random show,’ he said.

‘I watch these shows all the time. I find them to be wildly redundant and to not really have a macro view.

‘I think it can stand for something more coherent and be more effective in its execution of that by doing so.’

Psaki also briefly talked about the annoyances of being on the other side of the media as Biden's press secretary
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Psaki also briefly talked about the annoyances of being on the other side of the media as Biden’s press secretary

She also threw shade at Fox's White House Correspondent Peter Doocy, who became a frequent sparring partner for her and her successor Karine Jean-Pierre
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She also threw shade at Fox’s White House Correspondent Peter Doocy, who became a frequent sparring partner for her and her successor Karine Jean-Pierre

Stewart admitted that the right is ‘kicking progressive a** right now’ and the only way to stop that, in his view, is to better organize their think tanks and their media apparatus.

Stewart went on to decry media executives who think the only job of news outlets is to ‘call balls and strikes.’

‘No, you’re Upton Sinclair. So get on it,’ he said, referencing the 20th century journalist and author most famous for ‘The Jungle,’ a book that exposed horrors of the US meatpacking industry.

Psaki said she wasn’t someone who believed media should be ‘down the middle’ all the time.

‘The last three weeks has exposed exactly that issue. This notion that, and I think a lot of media is guilty of this, we have to be equal and down the middle,’ she said.

Later in the podcast, Psaki talked about the annoyances of being on the other side of the media as Biden’s press secretary.

‘If you’re in the briefing room and you watch a whole briefing…it is extremely repetitive,’ she said. ‘Six people are asking the same question because they need the clip for their package.’

She also threw shade at Fox’s White House Correspondent Peter Doocy, who became a frequent sparring partner for her and her successor Karine Jean-Pierre.

‘Not to pick on Peter Doocy, we had a good relationship. But I was never concerned about answering his questions,’ Psaki said. ‘It was when I would see David Sanger, who’s a New York Times reporter who’s covered nuclear issues for 30 years in the room, and I was like, s***, he’s gonna have a hard question.’